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Post: pn sie 21, 2017 9:30 am 
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Which of the rules for different terrain types on p.70-75 and p.155 of the new small rulebook should be used for Balkas (dry ravines or gullies)?

How common is this terrain in the various countries of 17th century eastern Europe?

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Post: pt wrz 15, 2017 10:20 am 
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Dry ravines are very common in Löss soil, glacial age dust accumulations; very fertile and hence usually densly populated. The ravines, in German known as Hohlweg, are usually paths or roads that cut into the Löss quite quickly. Due to the economical importance of the Löss, and the strategic importance of tight ravines/Hohlwege, they are important sites of medieval and early modern times in Europe.

As for the spread, refer to this map:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%B6ss ... vegan3.png
The yellow hatchures refer to the Löss desert, where the dusts accumulated on wind-protected sites. So they are highly local, but nonetheless the probability that military action would take place close to a site in eastern Europe is significant.

In western Europe, Hohlwege (lit. hollow paths) have become part of the common literature, compare Schiller Wilhelm Tell "Durch diese hohle Gasse muss er kommen", "he will approach through this hollow path", describing the rebels ambushing in a Hohlweg.


for the rules though, I have no idea :0

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Post: pt wrz 15, 2017 9:49 pm 
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Dry ravines are very common in Löss soil, glacial age dust accumulations; very fertile and hence usually densly populated. The ravines, in German known as Hohlweg, are usually paths or roads that cut into the Löss quite quickly. Due to the economical importance of the Löss, and the strategic importance of tight ravines/Hohlwege, they are important sites of medieval and early modern times in Europe.

As for the spread, refer to this map:
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/L%C3%B6ss ... vegan3.png
The yellow hatchures refer to the Löss desert, where the dusts accumulated on wind-protected sites. So they are highly local, but nonetheless the probability that military action would take place close to a site in eastern Europe is significant.

In western Europe, Hohlwege (lit. hollow paths) have become part of the common literature, compare Schiller Wilhelm Tell "Durch diese hohle Gasse muss er kommen", "he will approach through this hollow path", describing the rebels ambushing in a Hohlweg.


for the rules though, I have no idea :0


I'd probably treat them as low obstacles for movement/shooting, but maybe with a negative effect in close combat similar to a stream since troops inthe ravine are vulnerable down there?


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 Tytuł: Re: Balkas
Post: wt wrz 26, 2017 9:26 am 
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Thanks for the replies. I did not know about the Hohlwege and thought that this type of 'ravine' was only a feature further east. Very interesting and internet has many great photos.

I think we might add this feature to some of our casual skirmish games.

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