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 Tytuł: Transylvania vs Ottomans in the 1660's
Post: pn wrz 01, 2014 2:55 pm 
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Hi all,

Are the Transylvanians, that have now been unlocked throught the kickstarter, also suitable for the conflict between 1660/1661 and 1664 when the Ottomans invade Transylvania to show them that fighting Poland-Lithuania wasn't an option? Also. can the new Habsburg figures be used for that conflict?

If so, then a lot is ready for the conflict in Transylvania, and the event that lead to the battle of Saint Gotthard in 1664.

And, is there any inclination at Wargamer to add a module for that part of the wars in Eastern Europe?

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 Tytuł: Re: Transylvania vs Ottomans in the 1660's
Post: pn wrz 01, 2014 3:16 pm 
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We have idea to write about, as it's very interesting conflict, including Branderburgian and Swedish allies fighting on Imperial side against Turks. I cannot confirm though in which form we will publish it, as it's very initial phase of planning :)

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 Tytuł: Re: Transylvania vs Ottomans in the 1660's
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Nice to hear it is allready on your 'todo/wish' list.

Any knowledge about the usability of the figures for that period?

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 Tytuł: Re: Transylvania vs Ottomans in the 1660's
Post: pn wrz 01, 2014 3:37 pm 
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There is a comment of Daniel Staberg on KS page about HRE infantry.

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The Deluge period was located between two very diffrent styles of clothing, that of the late TYW and the military dress of the late Baroque that appears around 1660. The HRE regiment figures would woork fine for late TYW, the Deluge and can in a pinch be stretched to cover the Imperial wars of 1661 and 1663-1664.


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 Tytuł: Re: Transylvania vs Ottomans in the 1660's
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Glorfindel,

Thank you. I missed that comment on the KS, too many there to read them all.

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 Tytuł: Re: Transylvania vs Ottomans in the 1660's
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Transylvanian minis will be ok for that period as well.

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Kadrinazi,
Nice.

So I just added a whole new front to my new figures, even before I have them. ;)

And now to find thorough information about that period. In English one basically find only stuff about the battle of Saint Gotthard, and thus the Imperial side of the conflit. I've so far hardly found anything about the conflict in Transylvania itself.
Can anybody give a good bibliography for that region/period?

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 Tytuł: Re: Transylvania vs Ottomans in the 1660's
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I know everyone is working hard on By Fire & Sword miniatures, promotions, finishing stuff from the Kickstarter etc., but I really need to ask this for a peace of mind. :-D

Is the following still on the "road map" in some sort of form?

Transylvanian-Ottoman (1660/1661)/League of the Rine-Ottoman (1664) conflicts, including the battle of Saint Gotthard.
League of the Rine forces being (please forgive any factions I missed or errors made; still learning a lot about 17th century ;) ) France, Holy Roman Empire (Saxony, Brandenburg-Prussia, Bavaria, Baden-Baden, Swabia), Piedmont-Savoy, Hungarians and Croats. (I guess many forces can be presented by western type miniatures.)

If I may share an idea I have about this; it would be nice to see another supplement coming in a book form (either soft- or hardcover).
With supplement I do mean something like The Deluge, but (hopefully) no rules/clarifications needed. So, the book would be historical background (conflicts, armies etc.), skirmish/division lists and scenario's (Battle of Saint Gotthard scenario at least 8-) ). Actually, it is the format Battlefront has with Flames of War (rule book and different supplements covering different times and area's of war).

Is that a format Wargamer can use?
I know that there is a lot to cover and it might be nice. Will be buying every book then anyway. :D

That was it! 8)


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 Tytuł: Re: Transylvania vs Ottomans in the 1660's
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Together with the conflict on the Balkans it could cover a lot. The struggle in Moldavia where the son of Bohdan Khmelnytsky died, the punitative expedition of the Ottomans against the Balkan principalities after Transylvania participated in the Northern War, the interference by Austria, culminating in the Austrian campaign of 1664.

It could be an expansion for the whole of the Balkans, so adding Moldavia, Wallachia and Austrian Hungary and Croatia (the Habsburg borderlands). The first two did participate in the wars of the Ottoman Empire as vassal, except for the late 1650s, early 1660s when they try to become more independent under tutalage of Rakoczi György II of Transylvania.

The battle of Saint Gotthard will be outside scope, since it is to big for the current levels. Would be a good one for lvl 3 though.

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 Tytuł: Re: Transylvania vs Ottomans in the 1660's
Post: śr lip 22, 2015 11:06 am 
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There are plans for supplement covering this region but I cannot reveal any details yet :)

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