Ogniem i Mieczem - By Fire and Sword
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Suggested reading (in English)
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Author:  BlackLegion [ Sat May 30, 2015 2:40 pm ]
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It's a Volume I so i guess Volume II will cover our period :)

Author:  Hrothgar [ Fri Jun 05, 2015 5:25 pm ]
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Besides the classic trilogy from Sienkiewicz, are there any other novels that deal with this period and the parties involved?

I seem to recall there was a "sword & sandal" type novel about the Siege of Vienna a few years a go, but can't seem to find it anymore.

Author:  Julfdi [ Mon Jun 08, 2015 12:21 pm ]
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Howard (author of Conan) had a story about the first ottoman siege of Vienna. A atd early for us but inspiring. :-)

Author:  BlackLegion [ Mon Jun 08, 2015 1:41 pm ]
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There are several but they are written in Polish.

Author:  Hrothgar [ Mon Jun 08, 2015 8:55 pm ]
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Ok, that's a shame. I always like to listen to audiobooks, but sadly there appear to be no English version's of Sienkewicz works.

However, I did manage to find "Enemy at the Games" by Andrew Wheatcroft (1683 siege of Vienna) and "Warrior Dynasty" by Hendrik O. Lunde (about the Swedish kings of the 17th century) on Audible. That will have to do for the time.

Author:  Julfdi [ Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:42 am ]
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I would recommend Peter Englunds Invincible (of life and wars of Carl X Gustav of Sweden and Erik Dahlberg) and the earlier Years of War about Swedens involvement in the 30 years war.
Both are non fiction. Den oövervinnerlige and Ofredsår for those of You who can read Swedish iconSWE

Author:  Kadrinazi [ Tue Jun 09, 2015 9:58 am ]
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Englund's books are nice but first of all not available in English (although there's Polish translation of both of those books) and secondly he made many errors in his books, especially when describing non-Swedish point of view.

Author:  Julfdi [ Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:28 am ]
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Surprising. After seeing the English titles in wiki I thought English translation would actually exist.
Since they have been translated to Finnish and as I hear now Polish.

His point of view is Swedish, and even though he does list some Polish sources, he seems to - quite naturally - rely most heavily on Swedish authors.

What he is good at, is describing the events through certain key individuals and explaining the world view surrounding them. And even here the Swedish nobleman, German officer or a Swedish student raising in the world are better explained than others.

Author:  Kadrinazi [ Tue Jun 09, 2015 10:34 am ]
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Problem with Englund is that he often skip through sources available to him, making such silly errors like describing Patrick Gordon as protestant ;) I agree with what you wrote though, about great way that he describe 17th century world (especially Sweden-centered) and tell the stories of soldiers and civillians alike. But for me his book about battle of Poltava is the best, much better then those about 17th century wars.

Author:  CossackRick [ Wed Aug 05, 2015 1:26 am ]
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Found this item about The Deluge today. A lot of links everyone can use - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deluge_(history). Info for this time period is difficult to find, cheaply. Click on the (Deluge history) question. For some reason, I can't copy the link entirely.

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