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 Post subject: Painting Imperials ...
PostPosted: Mon Mar 17, 2014 2:00 pm 
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So I'm in the process of doing some Imperials.

Is there any good reference material for seeing what these guys looked like? I have Osprey's Imperial Armies of the 30 Years War (Infantry and artillery), but interested in seeing more beyond this. Wondering what other sources are available.


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Both Ospreys with Imperial need to be taken with pinch of salt, there's plenty of errors there. Info about Imperial armies uniforms between TYW and Relief of Vienna is scarce (at least in English, not to mention Polish), it was still some sort of transition time from 'all colours of rainbow' to classic Imperial pale grey that we know from later periods. One source from Imperial intervention in Denmark bring us info about infantry dressed whole in red, which is very unusual. Probably for all formation safest way is to use mix of different colours within units, although in some infantry units some more regular combination can be use for larger percentage of troops.

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Interesting regarding the pale gray for Imperials being used between the 30YW and the Relief of Vienna. Wondering if they were still using the red highlights per Wallenstein's order in 1632?

Regarding Imperial intervention in Denmark, was this during the same period being covered by the rules or in reference to the Imperial invasion of Denmark from 1625 to 1629?


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It was up to colonel-Inhaber to buy clothes for his regiment, so general instructions like Wallenstein's order was not as much as important ;)
By 'intervention in Denmark' I of course meant operation fromm 1658 onwards, as it's part of 'By Fire and Sword' timeline.

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Painting my first 4 companies for BSaF now ... some Imperials!

Hey ...so is the consensus that "unarmored" Cuirassiers mean from basic shirts to possibly the buff coat? Or would a buff coat constitute "armored" at this point?


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They have buff coats, soldiers were not going to war in shirts alone :)

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Kadrinazi wrote:
They have buff coats, soldiers were not going to war in shirts alone :)


Maybe you rich Europeans do but my Polish Peasant Force barely has shoes!!! :D

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Polish Peasants...i can tell you something about my Cossack Rabble :D

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BlackLegion wrote:
Polish Peasants...i can tell you something about my Cossack Rabble :D


I have them too! What a battle that would be - Peasants versus Rabble! :-D

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This would be interesting indeed :D

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